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Will Today’s Electric Cars Soon Be OBSOLETE? 4K

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Should you buy an electric car now? Or will today’s EVs soon become obsolete when new tech emerges? Sit down with a cuppa and listen as Rory breaks down how battery technology will evolve in the future, and what it means for end users.

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520 Comments

  1. I think the real revolution will be distribution, look at Tesla as the bell weather. Electric cars need almost zero maintenance, which is the profit engine for dealerships. Take away the service component and most car dealers go bust. Order your car online and it gets delivered by Amazon or UPS. Take away petrol stations and you lose another big segment of the support infrastructure. The future looks very different in an all electric car world.

  2. If you are buying a new car, buy a car you think you will be comfortable driving for the next 10 years regardless of the cool tech that comes out. You'll eventually be a ready for a new car which will have better tech than the year before.

  3. Here's my story that can serve as a warning:

    Back in early 2021 in the States, I had enough cash saved up to put a decent down-payment on a Tesla Model 3. Instead of buying the car, I decided to wait on the possibilities of new battery / charging technology, and the upcoming tax incentive renewal by the end of 2021

    Then the shortage hit real hard and that car went from $37k-ish to a whopping $47k-ish dollars in like 7 months.

    Now I'm left out of the Tesla game (and will likely stay that way forever) and the incentives I desperately waited for might not happen at all.

    More of the story? I wanted to buy a Tesla, but I sheepishly decided to wait instead for benefits that quite literally won't make any difference whatsoever. Now I'm left without a new car, and a likelihood of me ever owning a Tesla is next to none since the prices will probably stay this high for the foreseeable future, or until they come out with the rumored $25k model

  4. Another good one Rory. What about the use of Green Hydrogen also?

  5. I drive 12 to 14 hours a day you don’t need 500 miles range if you can charge at home , it’s unnecessary

  6. The title of the video doesnt match the content. So dislike of me. I dont want to brag about something. I dont have ego and self esteem isuess. I wanted to know how EVs will probably develop.

  7. Rory that was really good. I started laughing at your little joke about the badging for the solid state battery.

  8. You dodged your own question. I think the answer is yes, today's EVs will soon become obsolete (and very nearly worthless), if for no other reason than their lengthy charging time. Quick-charging solid state batteries, which presumably will also not erupt into unstoppable super-hot fires, seem likely to come online faster than conventional wisdom would suggest, out of necessity. Many of us simply won't buy EVs that take hours to fully charge — it needs to be about 15 minutes — plus the fire problem with Lithium-Ion batteries is an issue that won't go away. The current (Get it? current ) chargers will also become obsolete, as part of that transition.

  9. Heading for the top this guy, excellent reviewer 👌

  10. For all those who have not been paying attention to EV's for the past 20 years please note that battery technology is not going to improve suddenly.

  11. 'Better' should ALWAYS mean more range, at least until a reliable 500 miles per charge is standard in the cheapest EVs. I don't want to have to keep stopping at random places to recharge, with all the hassle that goes with finding an unoccupied charge point and connecting to the endless types of chargers with 100 different apps. Even if they make it so I can charge as quickly as visiting the petrol station, I still want to be able to make ICE-length journeys uninterrupted. Sort that, then I'll buy an EV!

  12. Fun topic. Can’t wait for future battery tech, and all the discussions that will follow.

  13. How about an EV that isn't stupid expensive and looks nice? That's what I would be interested in

  14. ABSOLUTELY. IT is one big con from start to finish.

  15. The battery packs will become obsolete, certainly. The rest of the vehicle probably won't. We have at least two more generations of BEV battery coming along in the next 10 years that will likely double the range for the same weight (or halve the weight for the same range). That will definitely be a huge deal. But the vehicles themselves might not become obsolete because battery packs are replaceable. So perhaps when my battery pack nears its end-of-life in 15 years or so, I'll be able to replace it with something better (perhaps even after-market), that doubles the range, and makes my ID.4 feel new again :-). Or perhaps I will just buy a new car then. We'll see!

    -Matt

  16. The battery packs will become obsolete, certainly. The rest of the vehicle probably won't. We have at least two more generations of BEV battery coming along in the next 10 years that will likely double the range for the same weight (or halve the weight for the same range). That will definitely be a huge deal. But the vehicles themselves might not become obsolete because battery packs are replaceable. So perhaps when my battery pack nears its end-of-life in 15 years or so, I'll be able to replace it with something better (perhaps even after-market), that doubles the range, and makes my ID.4 feel new again :-). Or perhaps I will just buy a new car then. We'll see!

    -Matt

  17. All i need is a green 4 Leaf clover badge on a red Alfa Romeo to know it's special

  18. Brilliant commentary – thank you. Love your channel 🙂 Greetings from the US.

  19. We know that anything with a rechargeable battery is going to give us grief. Be it a phone, radio, torch or earphone its going to let us down.
    Petrol will never let you down being available every few miles and a full tank in a few minutes.

  20. I hate the trend towards not putting the name of the model on the back of the car. I feel smug having an old gas guzzler.

  21. So, Reading between the lines, stick to your Diesel for now 🙂

  22. I like Rory, If he had been retained on Top Gear I might still be watching it, Happily he is now on 5th Gear Recharged

  23. I dont give a shit about performance, i only want range and practicality. Give me 75hp electric and a top speed of 170kmh and 1000km range. Make that affordable EV and we're done.

  24. Rory, I appreciate your getting all of your EV and battery tech info correct. Most auto journalists can’t even be bothered to understand the very basics of electricity, and thereby misinform and confuse their viewers. You have gone way beyond the basics, and present everything in an easy to understand way.

  25. What about HHO powered cars.
    Can somebody please put this resource into perspective against changing away from 4 – stroke to electric. This is another fuel that is co2 less. And we already have the technology. Are we being conned ??????

  26. Aahh, that's interesting,I thought the new Lithium Phosphate batteries offered more range ?? Not according to Rory. I can wait untill most of this is sorted ,maybe till 25 ??
    Keep these informative videos coming Rory, always a pleasure . A

  27. My cell batt is consistently screwing up at the 18 month mark

  28. The big/bloated legacy brands need to go away…let Rivian, Tesla , lucid , SAIC and all the other EV manufacturers/startups compete to give us a wide choice of Transportation.

  29. As we move on to better cell chemistries battery upgrade services will enter the market. EVs in this day and age are already pretty damn good and will probably be on roads for many years ahead. My 2 Satoshi PS. Sad attempt of a nazi joke. Boo 👎

  30. Man, this channel is SO biased towards ICE cars and anti-EV! Wow! Is this channel a front for some Saudi sheik or something?

  31. How will you show off your car? Maybe there will be less assholes?

  32. just pump and dump with leasing. Get a 3 year lease and make a switch when something newer and better is released and have the leasing company have to deal with selling it or getting rid of the car once you've got out of the contract period

  33. if we all went for lower perf for greater mileage till 12km/h no more would be a great move but hey its not fast enought for no reason so bad idea from motorhead

  34. I think you need
    Long range
    Easy charging maybe wireless like a phone
    Long battery life
    Recyclable batteries.
    Easy upgrade of batteries ie total change out for new tech as they improve
    Increased system efficiency ie miles per kw.
    Great vid thankyou.

  35. Brilliant thought provoking video. Could not car less about badges but do care about the world.

  36. Love watching you. Intelligent , well spoken and friendly.

  37. Wrong ! … LFP batteries have more usable capacity but only because you can charge to 100%.. and also usefully deplete them 0%
    …And solid-state batteries we don't have to wait 2025.. BYD are shipping vehicles with solid-state batteries today… Come on Rory

  38. Short answer yes. That and who wants to replace a battery every six years.

  39. Nice video. Like others say, ya gotta buy whats available. As opposed to analog ICE incremental development, digital technologies are exponential in development. The only thing holding back new batteries in the future will be the need to extract some profit from current investment. Different issue.

  40. Very well made video however IMO a big part of the problem is that most of the auto manufacturers don't care about extending range beyond what they think is (acceptable from buyers) for their vehicles and what's best for their bottom line. ———– There is one battery startup company (ONE/OUR NEXT ENERGY) LOL , that is concentrating on making more dense LFP aftermarket batteries for extended range, they made a battery pack that fits the Tesla Model S and in testing back in December 2021 it got 750 miles on one charge, this was in the middle of December outdoors on a frigid Michigan highway, (testing done inside a warm building on a Dyno that same battery and car got 880 miles on one charge). So it is possible to build long range batteries (if the car manufacturers really wanted to do it).

  41. not even interested in EV cars until I can get 500-600 miles out of a charge….. and thats with the heater/AC on, radio etc

  42. Ev cars are part of the global agenda to condense the population for total elite control over the masses. Boycott electric don't buy the lie vote your politicians out

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